In normal rescue mode, when I hit rescue when the heli is inverted, it does not climb out but merely hovers at the same altitude before recovering. I find this to be rather nerve wrecking when I initiate recovery close to the ground as it seems about to slam into the ground when it flips / loops upright. Therefore, a good climbout before recovery will be safer.
How do I set inverted climb out to a higher altitude before it recovers right side up?
Rescue question?
Hello,
the problem might be very likely in the swashplate settings.
It is important that when you enter Servovs/Subtrim (tunjing) menu all servos will be at the center and at the same time swashplate is leveled and at the same time there is 0° between main blades. Could you verify this is true?
the problem might be very likely in the swashplate settings.
It is important that when you enter Servovs/Subtrim (tunjing) menu all servos will be at the center and at the same time swashplate is leveled and at the same time there is 0° between main blades. Could you verify this is true?
Spirit System developer
Check your Acro Delay setting in the Stabi menu. By increasing this setting the model will climb longer before the flip to upright.John tan wrote:In normal rescue mode, when I hit rescue when the heli is inverted, it does not climb out but merely hovers at the same altitude before recovering. I find this to be rather nerve wrecking when I initiate recovery close to the ground as it seems about to slam into the ground when it flips / loops upright. Therefore, a good climbout before recovery will be safer.
How do I set inverted climb out to a higher altitude before it recovers right side up?
Yes, in order so that heli will ascend first set Acro Delay. This will ensure helicopter will climb and then flip and then climb again.
Spirit System developer
Just double checked. All servos already centered, swash levelled, blades @ 0°ZeXx86 wrote:Hello,
the problem might be very likely in the swashplate settings.
It is important that when you enter Servovs/Subtrim (tunjing) menu all servos will be at the center and at the same time swashplate is leveled and at the same time there is 0° between main blades. Could you verify this is true?
My rescue settings are here:
https://ibb.co/StLjMWS
Yes I have. I set it to 1 sec. When I hit rescue, it merely hovers inverted for 1 sec before flipping upright.LogoX2 wrote:Check your Acro Delay setting in the Stabi menu. By increasing this setting the model will climb longer before the flip to upright.John tan wrote:In normal rescue mode, when I hit rescue when the heli is inverted, it does not climb out but merely hovers at the same altitude before recovering. I find this to be rather nerve wrecking when I initiate recovery close to the ground as it seems about to slam into the ground when it flips / loops upright. Therefore, a good climbout before recovery will be safer.
How do I set inverted climb out to a higher altitude before it recovers right side up?
Verify its 1s and not .1s also what is your Rescue Collective setting ?John tan wrote:Yes I have. I set it to 1 sec. When I hit rescue, it merely hovers inverted for 1 sec before flipping upright.LogoX2 wrote:Check your Acro Delay setting in the Stabi menu. By increasing this setting the model will climb longer before the flip to upright.John tan wrote:In normal rescue mode, when I hit rescue when the heli is inverted, it does not climb out but merely hovers at the same altitude before recovering. I find this to be rather nerve wrecking when I initiate recovery close to the ground as it seems about to slam into the ground when it flips / loops upright. Therefore, a good climbout before recovery will be safer.
How do I set inverted climb out to a higher altitude before it recovers right side up?
Can you attach a pitch gauge (blades out to the side, not in line with the boom), check that collective pitch is zero at mid stick,
Check +- pitch is equal at max / min stick. What is max / min pitch at max/min stick?
Check pitch is zero at mid stick in the diagnostic tab.
Check servo travel is zero at max/min stick in servo->servo travel correction->setup.
Check Limits(tab)->collective pitch is a sensible value (e.g. 160 - 180)
Then set the mid stick and the pitch gauge will be zero.
Hit rescue - What is the collective pitch on the pitch gauge with rescue enabled?
Upload your 4ds setting file as an attachment to your post on this forum.
Check +- pitch is equal at max / min stick. What is max / min pitch at max/min stick?
Check pitch is zero at mid stick in the diagnostic tab.
Check servo travel is zero at max/min stick in servo->servo travel correction->setup.
Check Limits(tab)->collective pitch is a sensible value (e.g. 160 - 180)
Then set the mid stick and the pitch gauge will be zero.
Hit rescue - What is the collective pitch on the pitch gauge with rescue enabled?
Upload your 4ds setting file as an attachment to your post on this forum.
Yes. Collective pitch is zero at mid stick with blades out to the sides.jjuk wrote:Can you attach a pitch gauge (blades out to the side, not in line with the boom), check that collective pitch is zero at mid stick,
Yes, both max and min equal +12° - 12°jjuk wrote: Check +- pitch is equal at max / min stick. What is max / min pitch at max/min stick?
Yes. Pitch is zero.jjuk wrote: Check pitch is zero at mid stick in the diagnostic tab.
Yes. Servo travel is at zero.jjuk wrote: Check servo travel is zero at max/min stick in servo->servo travel correction->setup.
about 100-120jjuk wrote: Check Limits(tab)->collective pitch is a sensible value (e.g. 160 - 180)
Done.jjuk wrote: Then set the mid stick and the pitch gauge will be zero.
About 10.5°jjuk wrote: Hit rescue - What is the collective pitch on the pitch gauge with rescue enabled?
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Cyclic ring looks low at 5 degrees, what heli is it?
Don't think that would affect a rescue climb though? Try increasing this to 9-10 degrees, make sure the servos are not binding at max/min pitch as you adjust it.
Also, in a skids down hover, hit rescue. Does it climb?
You've measured 10.5 degrees of positive pitch in rescue, so it should be very capable of climbing, unless your motor slows down/boggs out significantly etc at the same time?
You measured +10.5 in rescue out of +12 so that's about 88%, as you stated it was 80% so I think the 4ds viewer is wrong.
Don't think that would affect a rescue climb though? Try increasing this to 9-10 degrees, make sure the servos are not binding at max/min pitch as you adjust it.
Also, in a skids down hover, hit rescue. Does it climb?
You've measured 10.5 degrees of positive pitch in rescue, so it should be very capable of climbing, unless your motor slows down/boggs out significantly etc at the same time?
I'm hoping that's a bug in the 4ds viewer, maybe someone from spirit can comment on that....Stabi -> Rescue collective pitch 47% (0% <-> -10%)
You measured +10.5 in rescue out of +12 so that's about 88%, as you stated it was 80% so I think the 4ds viewer is wrong.
Can you get these to closer to zero by adjusting the link lengths with a swash leveller, are they required? That's quite a lot of correction.Servo Travel Correction
Servo Travel Correction -> Pitch (CH1) -> Maximum 14 (-64 <-> 64)
Servo Travel Correction -> Elevator (CH2) -> Maximum 4 (-64 <-> 64)
Servo Travel Correction -> Aileron (CH3) -> Maximum 2 (-64 <-> 64)
Servo Travel Correction -> Pitch (CH1) -> Minimum -5 (64 <-> -64)
Servo Travel Correction -> Elevator (CH2) -> Minimum -30 (64 <-> -64)
Servo Travel Correction -> Aileron (CH3) -> Minimum -5 (64 <-> -64)
