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Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 6:50:50
by Necroscope
I have been going through my helis setup with my Soko setup tool.
I have my servos set at exactly 90 degrees and zero degrees at mid stick.
My collective is +9.8 deg and -9.5 deg.

But my cyclic is +8.8 deg and -13.5 deg.

How can I adjust the cyclic so that it is even in both directions?
Is it possable to give the ability to adjust the pos and neg cyclic in a later sofware update?

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 7:38:17
by Gtamas
If your collective is assymetrical, that means your servo arms are not at 90 perfectly!
Im also using the soko tool, great stuff :)

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 7:39:51
by ZeXx86
Necroscope: You can fix it in the Servos/Servo Travel Correction. So it is already there and you can even adjust each servo separately.
But if your servo arms are not in the center while Subtrim (tuning) is enabled, then this is the real reason for such difference.
At this time everything should be in the center position (0° between main blades).

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 13:19:11
by lostmyheli
I thought servo travel correction was to be used to get a level swash at max positive and negative collective ? Not to be used to correct unequal cyclic pitch. I have the same issue collective is =/- 11.9 but cyclic is 10 and 13. I use Soko also.

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 22:17:42
by Coco66
Not sure about Soko, but with a standard pitch gauge it is very easy to get wrong going from right to left aileron while measuring - a little displacement of the head will give a significative difference.

That said, if you move all three servos the same in the travel correction you will most likely fix your problem. It's clear what the feature does, use it as you wish...

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 22:33:15
by lostmyheli
Cocco, If you read the explanation in the manual for servo travel correction its used to achieve
level swash at max positive and negative pitch and correct for asymmetrical collective. Does not state anything about being used for asymmetrical cyclic pitch.

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 22:46:24
by Coco66
That's exactly what I mean... think at what it does, and use it as you want.

Was initially meant for level swash, but as a "side effect" it can be used to change max or min cyclic without impacting collective - if the three sliders are moved the same.

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Thu 22. Jun 2017 23:34:58
by lostmyheli
Cocco,
I tried as you suggested by moving all three sliders the same amount. It has no affect on cyclic only
collective.

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Fri 23. Jun 2017 6:55:41
by Coco66
Well, let me try it later today, I was sure that (a) that's what Tomáš suggested and (b) I used it for that in the past. But I could of course be wrong.

Re: Cyclic setup question

Posted: Fri 23. Jun 2017 7:01:05
by ZeXx86
When moving all sliders, it will affect only collective pitch, but not cyclic pitch.
It will be caused rather just by 1 or 2 servos. The real reason is that some push rod is not perpendicular (usually problem with e.g. Logo - elevator). Unfortunately in some cases it can't be fixed mechanically.