flight style impressions

[franz88]

I tried well version 4 and my impression:
it's going much better the pitch pump (move the throttle stick aggressively), the tail responds better.
stops have been improved, they are more determined but they're not fast yet, the decisive stop it is not present yet (it could be a good thing or bad thing)
Now I want to talk about the feeling
first (3.7.4) with flight style 5 and cyclic 9 the helicopter is agile.
Now with version 4 with flight style 5 and cyclic first 250/400 after 270/420 I have the impression that my helicopter he is not very agile.
Up until now that I was flying normally it was good but now that I have to try the 3D maneuvers I need agility.
why I increased from 4 to 5 and now I have to try 6 flight style.
RPM rotor I can't increase them any more I'm already at the limit with rpm rotor and if I go above with rpm I can do damage.
thinks that are 80% the same pilots.
In the simulator I can do almost everything but in reality I have to overcome fear (for this i use rescue automatic and rescue normal)
then a helicopter Perfect can help to learn new maneuvers.
But during flip if you have any impression of a blocked helicopter (I use a translator I'm not saying it's blocked it's just to do understand what I want to say) it's more difficult, but at the same time for those who fly normally this thing is positive.
While the 3D expert pilots they can fly with all types of helicopters, agility 4,5,6 the pilots 3D expert they are always capable to fly well to be honest, experienced 3D pilots they don't even use rescue.
Anyway the impression is that the flying style it's different but it's just that we need to find the right parameters why the helicopter fly well you just have to get used to it.
I saw the videos of your 3d pilots and in their videos their helicopters they are perfect.
I have to find the right combination to have helicopter as I prefer.
Can I ask the 3D pilots what a flight style do they use?
and how many degrees per second?
my model is sab raw 580

[ZeXx86]

Rotation rate conversion from V3 to V4 could be not exact, because previously it was not holding rates precisely.
You can easily increase. At around 360°/s your cyclic is fast enough for all 3D pilots. So increase until it is ok.
If it feels blocked and does not increase in speed it mean your Cyclic Ring is low.
It is hard to understand each your sentence, but it is all matter of settings.
You can share settings file.

[franz88]

Tomorrow i send you file and i can I can create a short video for the degrees of cyclic ring.
Now it's late.

Sensation blocked it means when helicopter maintains a position.
this behavior Depends cyclic ring ?

[franz88]

zexx86 I checked and cyclic ring I had 8 degrees.
Now I raised the cyclic ring at 10 degrees
first value cyclic ring is 118 now value cyclic ring is 145
so with this modification now my helicopter in theory will become much more agile?
this is file setting
remember my model is sab raw 580

[ZeXx86]

You are right, even 10° is often too low for acrobatics.

[franz88]

But if i move cyclic ring after I need to check the 6 degree setting?

[franz88]

can I know if I have the model set completely.
After i move only LIMITS/CYCLIC RING.
after I have to modify ADVANCED/GEOMETRY 6 (TUNING) ??
because I changed it only CYCLIC RING.
Can you tell me if I have to connect again the helicopter for modify ADVANCED/GEOMETR 6 (TUNING) ?
Thanks for the reply

[ZeXx86]

Geometry 6° has to be set only if changing servo centering, servos or subtrims.
If changing cyclic ring nothing else has to be changed.

[ExCCHP]

I can confirm that.

After I change things like collective pitch or cyclic pitch I always double check the 6° geometry setting just to make sure. It never needs to be re-adjusted.

[franz88]

toms this is my stop with version 4
and after there is stop of your pilot timo wendtland
you saw what a difference stops between my model and the model timo wendtland?
that's video version 4 and this is my setting
https://youtu.be/3CtvZkGW5kg
PS
these videos only from this link you can see them (they are hidden)