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(SOLVED) Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Thu 06. Aug 2015 6:35:39
by Coco66
After successfully configuring the Spirit Gov on the Blade 450X (stock "stupid" ESC), I am having a hard time in doing the same on my Goblin 500 with the Talon 90.

That's what I did to this regard:

1) Checked the Throttle in the Spirit Diagnostic tab, it is 0/+100 without requiring changes in the TX (DX8) travel (100%/100% there). This was done powering the Spirit with a receiver pack.

2) Configured the Talon 90 for External Governor and Fixed Endpoints (tried Initial Spool-Up Rate 4 and 5), no Auto Rotate

3) Configured the Spirit for Governor Electric, -100 and +100, Sensing divider 5, Gear ratio 10.35, Max head speed 3000 (plan to run flat 73% TC for 2200 and flat 90% for 2700), Response 5, Performance 4

4) Powered up, ESC does not arm, so did calibration: set min 70% and max 70%, powered up with full throttle (TC 0-25-50-75-100), ESC beeps, raised max to 126, so two more than the beep, lowered throttle, ESC beeps, raised min to -114, ESC arms

Problem is that running with TC 73%, Current RPMs keep going up and down between 1900 and 2500. Tried changing Response and Performance up and down, no changes. Running with 90% I get the expected kinda stable 2700.

To be noted, in the Diagnostic tab, now Throttle shows:
in Hold, -9% (instead of 0)
in Normal, up and down from 3% to 60% (while radio has a flat 73%)
in IU, 37% (while radio has a flat 90%)

What did I do wrong?
What do I have to do?
Help!

Re: Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Thu 06. Aug 2015 11:38:37
by Scott H
With the governor on, the throttle numbers in the diagnostic tab won't be right.

The cycling you describe sounds like tuning of the gov response and hold performance. Did you try changing the gov response to 3 and hold performance to 1 and then change only the gov response so it's powering well enough to maintain rpm in strong collective.

Manual describes this part well enough

Re: Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Thu 06. Aug 2015 12:10:24
by Coco66
Thanks, I will try all possible configurations... I did not insist in trying that since it really sounded sooo wrong that I really thought I was doing something wrong.

I also read that somebody uses different Talon options (not "external governor"), I will also try those.

Re: Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Fri 07. Aug 2015 13:39:30
by ZeXx86
It seems as your Governor Holding Performance is too high, so lowering should help you.
I also recommend to start with value of 1.

Re: Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Fri 07. Aug 2015 15:54:05
by Coco66
Thanks guys, now that I know that I am not totally wrong I tried Response 3 and Performance 1 and it sounds better (on the bench without blades).

So I finished the setup and I am ready to maiden.

Funny that no forum addicts nor helifreaks are using Spirit with the Talon 90, I was hoping (I am used to) to get a specific answer "I have it setup like this" ))))))

Re: (SOLVED) Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Fri 07. Aug 2015 16:01:48
by Scott H
I post to both, but when I ask a question it's here as it seems Tomas checks this with more frequency.

Re: (SOLVED) Spirit Gov and Talon 90

Posted: Fri 07. Aug 2015 19:23:09
by ZeXx86
I believe there are many pilots with this setup, but they are just busy. Hopefully they will share their setup files.